@agiletortoise We should probably do that. Need an opt-out setting for summers in Texas.

@manton I turned off the automatic features of our Nests years ago. They work great on a schedule with voice control and I don’t have to be uncomfortable at the whim of a little computer. 🤷‍♂️

@agiletortoise @manton Same.

Does Nest have external temperature sensors available (like Ecobee)? Being able to read the temperature in different parts of the house really helped us wrangle our thermostat into submission.

@manton I’ve got an ecobee-brand, and even though I have the city’s power-loss-prevention setting on, I haven’t seen that yet this season.

Maybe a brand or settings difference?

@DazeEnd Looks like they do have that! Nice. A big part of the problem is the Nest is in a room that people aren’t in much, so the motion sensor thinks no one is home.

Our ecobee is doing the same thing. It spent most of yesterday trying to keep the house at an uncomfortable 82 degrees!

I just bought a new AC unit because my current one doesn’t work well with the constant combo of 70-80 temperature and 80% humidity. It keeps shutting off because it’s cold enough, but sure not dry enough.

@manton my HVAC contractor taught me a bunch about keeping the house cool. The thermostat is a lie. It can only measure air temperature and to maintain cooling throughout, you need to store “cool” in the structure. The smart thermostat can’t measure that. It is designed to “save” money, not ensure your house is comfortable.

@agiletortoise @manton ditto with the nest. I also had to disable the smart features (eg rain skip) on my racchio sprinkler controller cuz they were so unpredictable and wrong so frequently. Those two remain the only smart devices in my house cuz they made me realize the smart home is marketing BS #internetofshit