@pratik I am at the point that cross posting is useless for me until I can more easily choose where I post at a post level.

@pratik It defaults to “on” for all configured services and doesn’t remember the previous setting. In other words, it works like the web version and Mac app. I still feel this is the best default for most people… I know this is debatable! Now that it’s consistent everywhere we can consider if the defaults need to change.

@pratik oh … Thankyou … will go take a look. I came off the beta months ago because it broke my system … time to look again.

@pratik ha … I posted to mb .. cross posting to 4 others and looking to see if they appear … nada … only to find it’s not even on the microblog timeline … back later.

@pratik What you said is what Manton said.

Checked = cross-post activated or “on”

Unchecked = cross-post deactivated or “off”

“on” is the default — nothing is being remembered; it will always be on when making a new post.

It looks like your test was successful per the current design. The next step for folks is to use the Feature Requests thread if they want it to work a different way 👍

I don’t see the cross-posting settings. Is it not available for external blogs?

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@pratik Yep, I also think off-by-default would be best. Though I’m a bit of an “opt-in everything” person so I don’t currently understand the alternative approach too well.

@kimonostereo Not for external blogs yet. We would likely need some way to preserve that setting in the feed.

@pratik ok - so clearly it took more time than usual to appear - now I can also see both.

But nothing was syndicated.

Now I need to understand behavior. I currently have all repost switched off.

In the app - I can check and uncheck the different services - and I can see a checkmark is there OR not.

I assumed that having it checked meant it got sent? BUT maybe it is that I also have to have them all enabled and then deselect that which I don’t want to send?

@pratik so IF i enable cross posting on the account - then the default is to cross post everything - and I then need to run the checks every time … what I want is to occasionally cross post … so default is never and then on a post - choose on e or more of the acounts I want to send to - should that work somehow?

@pratik no syndicated = not posted

@pratik bringing into the conversation … to offer a different approach that makes the cross posting at a post level more useful

At the account level

1 I enable cross posting for any and all services I want to include in my list

2 for each service I decide whether they are ‘always on’ or ‘always off’

At the post level

1 When I have written a post and publish … it is cross posted according to the rule I set in step 2

2 but I can bring up the list of all the cross post possibilities … there is a check mark against each service that is on

3 just for that one post, I can uncheck checked services and check unchecked services so that single post is cross posted to that selection

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In my particular case, I would enable all services to be cross portable but NOT on … I would choose that at the post level.

This because some 90percent of my posts are in drafts and I use actions to publish and most of what I write I don’t want to blindly push out to other services

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So … is this how it works? Or am I making things too hard?

@pratik I will wait until weighs in before I do a full reply …

Re @jsonbecker suggestion … yes … using the very excellent post/update drafts action .. that would indeed work … but I wonder what percentage of micro blog users have drafts … much less uses drafts to post to micro blog on a regular basis?

Was thinking about the microblog self contained solution … if bookshelves, podcasting et al are services built in to micro blog so you don’t need a third party … why would you need a third party to post … the most basic service of micro blog.

Granularity is very important … without it … I cannot see how I can easily cross post without cluttering up my services …. Eg … only very occasionally into LinkedIN, but more often into Mastodon or BlueSky … maybe only book, film and music posts into TUMBLR etc

And yes … this is not a Full reply’ 🤣

@JohnPhilpin fundamentally the purpose of cross positing is not, IMO, very careful curation of identity. It’s a key feature largely to support the idea that you want everything you post to first and foremost live on your blog on the open web. Crossposting is a way to expose that content natively where other people are while you own the canonical version of your content.

There are whole social media management tools that are about posting the same or different content specifically to different platforms and audiences and endless complexity there. But in the end, if your goal is not post on your own site and syndicate everywhere, I’m not at all convinced what you’re doing is what is meant by crossposting. It could be valuable and work well for you, but it’s implementing a different function than Indieweb style “syndicate your blog”.

Micro.blog isn’t a social media management tool— it’s a blogging tool that helps do the syndication where available to other platforms.

@jsonbecker I wouldn’t disagree that I am an edge case. And you are doubtless way more qualified than I as to what cross posting is - and what ‘we’ want … doesn’t change my mind though 😂 … since Micro Blog is increasingly ‘shoe shine and desert’.

I think my request that duplicates functionality found in other apps is reasonable as we have other functionality built into Micro Blog that replicates functionality found in other 3rd party apps, bookshelves and podcasts particularly spring to mind.

@JohnPhilpin and @jsonbecker Sorry to wade in here - I may not be illuminating anything. I would like “syndication profiles” - that is, maybe I syndicate to everything, or maybe I syndicate to a work or professional stream, or maybe to a personal stream, or maybe to a family stream. I try to be authentic at all times, but I do have different personae in real life, and I’d like these to carry over into my digital life - even if there is a “single source of truth” should anyone be bothered to go looking for it. After all, my personae aren’t deceptive (they are all me!), but they are differently contextualised, and people who know me know me in different places. I take the point about it being arguable whether MB is the tool to offer such fine-grained control, but then I am looking for an ur-tool that does.

@mmetcalfe I fully understand what you, @JohnPhilpin, and @pratik want. It’s viewing Micro.blog as a posting tool to other services, which I get. In some ways it absolutely can be that. It’s just a different persona and use case than is currently optimized here. I’m actually considering writing this up how I would at my day job as a product manager (including the solution I would propose) as a fun public exercise. I’ll see what energy I have this weekend.

@mmetcalfe exactly … Thankyou for weighing in.

@jsonbecker look forward to it .. but I’ll understand if the ‘strength’ to make it happen eludes you.

@jsonbecker @JohnPhilpin Thank you. For me, interesting conversation and like @pratik, it has got me thinking about my social media and blogging practice. I’ve been trying to avoid this, but I don’t think I can put it off indefinitely!

Just noticed this on the current iOS beta: Attaching a photo to a post gives the error: “Whoops an error occured. Please try again.” It seems like the photo is attached and I can add alt text, but the photo does not post.

@kimonostereo Thanks. Has photo upload worked for you in the 3.x version at all yet? Wonder if it’s something with our support for Movable Type again.

hmmm. Good question! I don’t think I’ve tried to upload a photo to MT using the beta app before this, so it might just be a MT issue with the app.