Now that I’m using Hetzner in the EU, I’m having difficulty understanding Linode pricing. For example, dedicated 16 CPUs on both hosts:

Linode: $288
Hetzner: $110

This is a massive difference. Is Linode that much better? I feel like a fool for paying this.

jeromekoehler

@manton I have been using Hetzner for a while now, based on @patrice's recommendation, and I am not looking back.

jeromekoehler

@manton I am curious as to why there is such a huge pricing discrepancy…

Chris Verbree

are the offerings the same in all other metrics? Bandwidth, network connections / speed? Uptime garanties.

Manton Reece

@V_ There are some differences (Hetzner actually had more RAM) but nothing obvious that would account for the price.

Thomas Goepel

@V I have been using Hetzner for more than 20 years and never had any issue or never any need to look somewhere else. Never had tried Linode as Hetzner has always been great value for a great and fair price.

🍀 Egghat НетBойне 🍀

@manton As a German (Hetzner is a german company) I‘ve always wondered why Linode is so expensive.

Mike DodoWithCap

Hetzner is using „cheaper“ Hardware like Desktop CPUs / SSD Drives

Ben Ubois

@manton been very happy since moving Feedbin to colocation six years ago. Saves about $20k/year vs leased dedicated servers and an unthinkable amount over the cloud. Performance is great and have only had one hardware failure that impacted uptime.

Manton Reece

@benubois That sounds great. I think I need to eventually go to colocation, but not quite ready for the change.

Manton Reece

@DodoWithCap Ah, interesting. Thanks.

Jeff C. 🇺🇦

@egghat @manton Out of curiosity, how are they with documentatin and general support in English?

I'm tempted to see about hosting in the EU due to <gestures broadly> here in the US, but like the average American I'm woefully monoligual.

Manton Reece

@jeff @egghat It’s all in English too. I’m running a couple servers at Hetzner in Germany now, no problem.

John Brayton

I should look into Hetzner. I have been happy with Linode, but it looks like Hetzner could save me a good amount of money.

Zac West

@manton The Hetzner machines, in my experience, are also way more performant. I moved all my things into the Oregon datacenter; the hardest part was setting up NAT to avoid paying for IPv4 addresses for backend servers (and in the end having any public IP; Tailscale is so good).

Daniel Jalkut

We should totally get Hetzner to sponsor … something.

Ben Ubois

@manton happy to answer any questions!

Chris Van Buskirk

@manton Ugh, it would be such a pain to move my domains but Linode’s pricing has gotten out of hand.

Manton Reece

@danielpunkass Corn Tuition. 🌽

Daniel Jalkut

Hahaha! Yes.

Timo Tijhof

@manton

It's not per-se "what", it's also from "who", what competitors their target audience will (not) consider, what pricing they can get away with, and thus how aligned the business is with you.

Hetzner is a European company, going for 30y, profitable, stable, privately owned, with local competition that their customers will know and do consider.

Linode got swept up by Akamai, a publicly traded American company looking for ROI and trying to play among big tech.

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3

Timo Tijhof

@manton

It was strange seeing NetDNA/MaxCDN/Highwinds/StackPath after years of acquisitions suddenly cut the entire CDN business in favour of edge compute. It took me by surprise. I guess they couldn't make it profitable from their eyes.

It's weird because the product was so expensive by then, that of course you'll struggle to reach economies of scale. It's hard to recover once that spirals out of control.

Manton Reece @manton
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